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OFFICIAL: 2.7.1 Update Notes (LIVE!)

Discussion in 'Official News & Announcements' started by Liam, Oct 23, 2018.

  1. Luke

    Luke Active Member

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    Keep in mind painwheel is already atk heavy to give her any ability that gives a stable increase of atk is unbalancing the game so the only choices we are left with is give her better defense. And we can’t even give her too much defense buff because that would also unbalance the game. Just saying
     
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  2. You cant beat D

    You cant beat D New Member

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    These buffs! Especially sheltered parasoul! I am so ready,
    Too bad about understudy bella though, i mean, it's a good change, but i never got enough understudy bellas to experience it, anyway, an overall great update, and i CANNOT wait to play it!
     
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  3. You cant beat D

    You cant beat D New Member

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    Also thank you for fixing cerabella's plummel house glitch,
    It was funny, but got annoying fast, mainly due to squiggly, who's also been fixed, i gotta give it to you guys, your ontop of things!
     
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  4. Skeleman

    Skeleman New Member

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    It's not even a defense buff really, one stack of Armor isn't really changing much unless you're Resonant Evil Big Band, enrage does nothing for you if you're in the process of getting bodied, and a single free hit with no knockback will only help you if you're getting them with Dread Locks frequency.
     
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  5. Tom Kulczewski

    Tom Kulczewski Active Member

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    Damn, these buffs. You guys just made almost all those variants somewhat competitive. Crazy, but I really like this buff-what's-weak-instead-of-nerfing-what's-strong approach!
     
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  6. Dr_cpt.

    Dr_cpt. New Member

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    So does the change to hype mode mean we won't be able to gain charge stacks manually from throws anymore?
     
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  7. Beldr447

    Beldr447 Active Member

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    Painwheel marquee is about making the best of a bad situation. Can't tell you how many times I took down an enemy with his own crit, and with the new changes she can take 0 damage with 50% def and 2 crits.
     
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  8. infine

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    The problem is, at high streaks you eat a combo - you die, doubly so with painwheel (though maybe it's just me not bothering to build defense). What use is a marque that activates on hit when getting hit means you die? It effectively makes pw marques defense-only abilities. I mean Immoral Fiber at least heals teammates when she dies, Painwheel just gets buried with fancy buffs.

    Well, yes, getting armour on crits might make you survive against opponents that don't need help in dealing against to begin with (Filia? Parasoul?). Meanwhile your friendly neighbourhood Cerbella will oneshot you just the same.
     
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  9. Krovelnaut Iron

    Krovelnaut Iron New Member

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    These changes are very much welcomed thank you.


    P.s.
    These are such amazing changes, I may be having a crush on you.
    P.p.s.
    ;) talk to me talk to me baby!
     
  10. Beldr447

    Beldr447 Active Member

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    And the sec that Cerebella crits you she is screwed if you have tainted blood. I have seen high streak Cered deal crits with Diamonds are forever of 94k and that reflected 100% on her means she dies on the spot too
     
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  11. theLoneskull

    theLoneskull Member

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    I know I'm gonna love this update (then again, all the updates have been awesome. Except 2.5. I still have nightmares about the BB3 spam)

    I do have some things to say about the ability changes
    As much as I love these new changes, most of these fighters are still not good enough to really be considered useful. As an example, Graveyard Shift might have a better SA, but she still either has to take someone down or let one of her teammates go down. With SA1, she still only does 3000 damage, so good luck killing anyone with that. Sketchy also has a far better SA. But again, it still depends on tag-ins, which don't happen very often. Her damage is also not high enough to really be of use. On the other hand, Hair Apparent is much better now, seeing as she can charge her meter up as fast as Windswept and still does decent damage. The same can be said for Nearly Departed, since she no longer has to be dead in order to revive her teammates.

    Again, these changes are nice. However, Painwheel's MA is still mediocre at best seeing as the problem is the fact that it relies on the opponent's action and not your own. In the best scenario, you'll be dealing with a character that utilizes critical hits for something other than damage (i.e. Bad Ms Frosty, Parasite Weave, Heavy Reign, etc.). On offense, worthless. On defense, not entirely worthless. But only if you use MA1. And even still, the opponent has to constantly be landing criticals in order for it to really do much. Overall, the Marquee cannot be triggered through the player's actions and assumes she'll survive being beat around like a pinata. Which she almost never does.

    (Also I'm betting the Gehenna stage creeped out a lot of us in SG2E, so its only fitting that its here in time for Halloween)
     
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  12. UltimateShowstopper

    UltimateShowstopper New Member

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    A couple of characters, especially silver ones, can be used for support. Peacock Gold is quite enough as a solo character. Now there are only a few characters on support. 25% damage SA has more chances to win in the heavy ranks, as support.
     
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  13. Mentos

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    lol grudge gives painwheel the ability to completely shut down crit fighters and survive an entire combo with 1-5 stacks of enrage and people still say it's a bad ma
     
  14. Shambles88

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    Is the ultimate counter to several ms fortune and precision stackers fighters
     
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  15. Diony

    Diony New Member

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    Yeah, I liked to play with her supporting Beowulf - Cold Stones in Bronze and Silve Prize Fights
     
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  16. rexturtle1120

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    Not really, the Precision buff hits he enemy will a critical but I don’t think it activates the MAs and I know for a fact it doesnt activate the SAs
     
  17. Shambles88

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    According to what Liam post in the 2.6 update the precision only prevents SAs:

    PRECISION is a buff that will consume one stack on hit to guarantee a CRITICAL HIT. This critical hit will also ignore "defensive" Signature Abilities and prevent them from activating entirely! That means no Dread Locks damage reflection, no stun activation chance from Resonant Evil, and no unflinching from Armed Forces/Untouchable!
     
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  18. Beldr447

    Beldr447 Active Member

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    Yo
    You are right, that's why painwheel was a defense monster on ms fortune pf, your crits got reflected and you gained precisions that made you take even more damage
     
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  19. rexturtle1120

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    Alright thanks my bad!
     
  20. BallotBoxer

    BallotBoxer Active Member

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    Get hype! It is happening now! They're currently in maintenance mode for the new update.

    It will be interesting to see how the tier chart changes after the Six Silvers and the revised characters. I doubt I can score top 100 for the ever-elusive NECROBREAKER Squigly though.
     
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