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Diamond relic: how does the game decide which character you get

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Qasr, Feb 14, 2020.

  1. Qasr

    Qasr New Member

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    Hi guys,

    does anyone know how the game calculates which characters you get when you open a diamond relic?
    does it just use pure rng or does it factor in your current collection somehow?

    I ask in particular because even with a small number of natural diamonds, all i ever got from diamond relics were duplicates.

    Case 1: i got a class cutter from a premium relic from the cabinet about month or so ago. i opened a diamond relic the same day, and it was also a class cutter.
    Case 2: an x-bot i got a few weeks ago from a 10+1, showed up as a duplicate yesterday

    I know that that's too little data for too long a time period, and your experiences will likely invalidate this, but i just need to confirm if it's completely random or not.

    Thanks, and apologies in advance if this was answered elsewhere.
     
  2. Jaggie

    Jaggie New Member

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    Im guessing its randomly calculating numbers and it just so happens to land on that character. May just be luck, im sure it doesnt matter if you have pulled that character in the past because I got four Red Velvets in a row .
     
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  3. Qasr

    Qasr New Member

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    I should introduce your consecutive velvets to my consecutive blood drives. Thanks for replying Jaggie!
     
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  4. Jaggie

    Jaggie New Member

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    No problem! Im glad to help!
     
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  5. BallotBoxer

    BallotBoxer Well-Known Member

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    I think it is just random number generated chance. Even after getting a series of Parasouls marching out of relics, I have to remind myself that the human brain is always looking for patterns. So sometimes it may look suspicious, but it probably is just coincidence.
     
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  6. Lililira

    Lililira Active Member

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    I'm pretty sure it's purely random chance. Though I personally wouldn't open two at once; I don't trust my luck to follow statistical averages anymore. This game is making me superstitious about RNG, I swear.

    Move substats on the other hand... Has anyone else noticed that when upgrading a move multiple times really quickly it seems to have a higher chance to choose the same substat multiple times in a row? I've got a theo beam that I upgraded to lvl 9 all in one go and it's subs are 6% Spec Cd / 6% Crit Dmg / 21% Crit Rate. Maybe I'm just seeing patterns where there are none, but it feels odd to me. Great for building my Purrm though.
     
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  7. Disasterrr19

    Disasterrr19 Member

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    Just RNG, nothing more. Take it from a person with 7 Love Crafted, 6 Freeze Frame and 3 Stand Out pulls (sorry, I know that I complain about it too often, but it's just that kind of a thread)
     
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  8. RamnaFS

    RamnaFS New Member

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    Well, from my very first diamond relic, I got Heavy Handed, which is ok

    At the second one, after a while completing the 1000 shards, guess what... Another Heavy Handed! (I have screenshots on my old phone just for the lol's)

    At the third one, I didn't get another HH, but a Assassin's Greed, which I already have :c

    In my experience, all my diamond relics were completely dupes :(
     
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  9. Rudølf

    Rudølf Member

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    WHAT? EVEN THE MOVES' UPGRADING IS RNG?! I always thought upgrading moves are equally spread out... ;0;
     
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  10. Qasr

    Qasr New Member

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    Hi guys, thanks for all the replies. I guess It would have been less painful if it weren't a second X-bot, which i don't hate, btw, but still, its going to get converted.
    Yeah, i'm pretty much convinced at this point that it's just rng. That said, i think i'll follow Lilira's example and not open diamond relics at the same time.
    Happens to me to with the substats, the first two upgrades almost always affect the same one.
    Hey man, feel free to vent, i feel like its painful, no matter how good the dupes may be.
    I mean, I knew statistically that the more you have the more likely you'll get dupes. Which is why it hurts a bit more when it happens to you when your collection isnt that big yet.
     

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