MAD MALICE!! Early opinion.

[Aoskull]

I luckily hired Malice in PR and… yep, she was definitely silent-nerfed. GI Jazz's record for fastest nerf has now broken!

Well, I can't understand why it wasn't even written in the patch note… (It was written properly in the case of GI Jazz.)

 

[SvenZ]

They should just straight up remake her to a Neutral variant with some more interesting Signature abilities. I said it in the Discord, and I'll say it here again. The people that green lit this have no idea what they're doing or are creatively drained

 

[Annie enjoyer]

I luckily hired Malice in PR and… yep, she was definitely silent-nerfed. GI Jazz's record for fastest nerf has now broken!

Well, I can't understand why it wasn't even written in the patch note… (It was written properly in the case of GI Jazz.)

Honestly, I am Mad at this change and how they did this.

This is a terrible was to present your first update.
They had a good time to check it before the leak, so I assume they have read something of the 10 enrages in some place.

So, they are not checking things by themselves and they don't communicate decisions.

 

[Annie enjoyer]

They should just straight up remake her to a Neutral variant with some more interesting Signature abilities. I said it in the Discord, and I'll say it here again. The people that green lit this have no idea what they're doing or are creatively drained

Light was my favorite element for her, rewardless anything for the reference.

Do you have any suggestion for her new ability as neutral?
Also, why neutral?

 

[Aoskull]

They should just straight up remake her to a Neutral variant with some more interesting Signature abilities. I said it in the Discord, and I'll say it here again. The people that green lit this have no idea what they're doing or are creatively drained

Changing to neutral doesn’t seem bad. Well, there's never been a case like that before, but if, if, if it becomes neutral, please make my Zelclea Marie (my icon!) as the new light Marie, devs! ( they probably won't see it anyway…)

 

[SvenZ]

Light was my favorite element for her, rewardless anything for the reference.

Do you have any suggestion for her new ability as neutral?
Also, why neutral?

Neutral because of her visual effects, changing color to every element. Visually, it just makes sense. Plus she doesn't have a Neutral variant yet.

I haven't really thought about reworks, because I've mentally placed this variant under the rug, as not even existing. We can make a thread and throw some ideas around

Changing to neutral doesn’t seem bad. Well, there's never been a case like that before, but if, if, if it becomes neutral, please make my Zelclea Marie (my icon!) as the new light Marie, devs! ( they probably won't see it anyway…)

Some synergies will be lost. Noble Mogul for the even greater damage for one. But I think of having classic Alice as a damage variant to be quite weird theme wise. If it was American McGee's Alice, then sure. But this is not her

 

[Kheul]

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one of the worst nerfs i have ever seen, i think they could be checking this forum, i don't know.

This nerf cuts her down quite hard, but she was absurdly strong to begin with. I take my whale milking comment back, I still want to get her but it doesn't feel predatorily mandatory to get her anymore

She still can pair with Seraph quite nicely, but then again Seraph covers most of the work she does. Purely support-wise Seraph takes the cake imo, but when you add her SA2 she becomes a decent contender as a whole.

Her SA2 doesn't say "her teammates" but "any teammates". So it is highly likely that it is a global effect which also works on the damage she takes as well. Use a Trauma Center Valentine on the back, let her get herself to 1% HP and you would pretty much start with 3 PERMANENT ENRAGES. She can recover her HP back with her Lifesteal BB easily. This way you get to have PERMANENT PRECISION the moment you get the enemy to 40% HP.

I think she is still great.

 

[Annie enjoyer]

This nerf cuts her down quite hard, but she was absurdly strong to begin with. I take my whale milking comment back, I still want to get her but it doesn't feel predatorily mandatory to get her anymore

She still can pair with Seraph quite nicely, but then again Seraph covers most of the work she does. Purely support-wise Seraph takes the cake imo, but when you add her SA2 she becomes a decent contender as a whole.

Her SA2 doesn't say "her teammates" but "any teammates". So it is highly likely that it is a global effect which also works on the damage she takes as well. Use a Trauma Center Valentine on the back, let her get herself to 1% HP and you would pretty much start with 3 PERMANENT ENRAGES. She can recover her HP back with her Lifesteal BB easily. This way you get to have PERMANENT PRECISION the moment you get the enemy to 40% HP.

I think she is still great.

She is still good, but her role as support is heavily more marked.
The best strategy to use her as main force is let your 2 teammates die and resurrect them after. I think.
Valentine first, dark might second, Marie at the end to revive them and benefit from trauma center.

Use her in the bench and let other fighter as main is probably better, a lot of variants can do a good job with 5 enrages, and precision is not exclusive.

 

[MDude]

Honestly, I am Mad at this change and how they did this.

This is a terrible was to present your first update.
They had a good time to check it before the leak, so I assume they have read something of the 10 enrages in some place.

There is a video on the SGM reddit showcasing her with the 10 enrages, I'm pretty sure that's where they must have noticed it

So, they are not checking things by themselves and they don't communicate decisions.

That's one of the main issues I have with Autumn Games, granted HVS wasn't also the easiest to get a hold with, but they had way more options and you could actually get even a generic response ; or when stuff like this happened they would issue a statement saying they were aware of the issue, Autumn so far goes radio silent for way too long and whenever you say something about it people say you're just a hater; but remember you must always say "Autumn Games is doing good things!" otherwise you're just hating because you're either a hater or a HVS supporter

 

[Kheul]

There is a video on the SGM reddit showcasing her with the 10 enrages, I'm pretty sure that's where they must have noticed it

That's one of the main issues I have with Autumn Games, granted HVS wasn't also the easiest to get a hold with, but they had way more options and you could actually get even a generic response ; or when stuff like this happened they would issue a statement saying they were aware of the issue, Autumn so far goes radio silent for way too long and whenever you say something about it people say you're just a hater; but remember you must always say "Autumn Games is doing good things!" otherwise you're just hating because you're either a hater or a HVS supporter

The thing is their first post about Mad Malice on Twitter was the already-nerfed version of her, even though we got the "OP" version of her in the game at first.

It was probably an oversight that they let the OP version slip in before the actual relic release, as they already decided to tune her down beforehand which can be seen on the SA reveal post on Twitter.

That was my vid btw, it was fun while it lasted xd

 

[SvenZ]

and whenever you say something about it people say you're just a hater; but remember you must always say "Autumn Games is doing good things!" otherwise you're just hating because you're either a hater or a HVS supporter

100% what the Discord group has devolved into