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Revolutionary Relic

Discussion in 'Game Events' started by BallotBoxer, Jun 26, 2019.

  1. BallotBoxer

    BallotBoxer Well-Known Member

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    Pop your fireworks and slay your monarchs/tyrants! A new Revolutionary Relic is on the way:
    Perhaps a patriotic prize fight will appear as well? More importantly, what's in the box? This is my guess:
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    There are a handful that are definitely red, white, and blue, then a few that are almost following the scheme that might appear. Then what might be a new fighter in each material tier:
    • Star-Spangled Cerebella (diamond)
    • Freedom Fighter Beowulf (gold)
    • Blue Bomber Robo-Fortune (silver)
    • ??? (bronze)
    What do you want in the Revolutionary Relic?
     
  2. Jaz00

    Jaz00 Active Member

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    Guaranteed new character when spending X amount of Theonites. Nothing feels worse than wasting resources on a “chance”.

    For example, 10+1 pulls will guarantee one of the new characters on the bonus relic. So, at least Blue Bomber at like 70% chance, Freedom Fighter 25%, and Star Spangled 5% or so. It’d probably cost 3,000 theonites...

    Would also be nice to have a chance to pull elemental exclusive variants.
     
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  3. BallotBoxer

    BallotBoxer Well-Known Member

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    Those elemental exclusive variants are the rarest to get. I'd sooner get struck by lightning twice while finding a winning lotto ticket under a tsuchinoko.

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    Elemental Exclusive fighters, a.k.a. "Variants you'll never get"

    The odds are listed as 3.5% for gold (and 7.0% for +1 bonus), but that is also competing with the 8-9 other golds in that element (for instance, there are 8 air golds in the game, so 7 chances it won't be Star-Crossed Parasoul in your relic)

    This is relevant because Blue Bomber Robo-Fortune has been revealed to be EXCLUSIVELY in the Revolutionary Relic: https://twitter.com/sgmobile/status/1144057846096465921

    Well, at least she is silver, so there is a much higher chance (14%?) of getting her. Star-Spangled Cerebella will probably be around 0.5% :eek:
     
  4. Jaz00

    Jaz00 Active Member

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    0.5% is just terrible. It’s probably 1% (2% for the bonus) if following past rates. Even then, that is super low... It’s a marketing philosophy that I can never understand. Any company can choose either:

    1. Some amount of gatcha and then guarantee some reward for consolation after a certain amount spent
    2. Complete, 100% gatcha

    You’d think that more people would spend with option 1, and it boosts customer satisfaction.

    Option 2 is pure gambling and exploits people with gambling addiction. Players either don’t spend or they go all in until they get what they want. Those who attempt are very likely to rage quit when RNG doesn’t line you.

    I’ve always thought option 1 is a win-win where more players will pay and overall player base is happier. Turns out companies make much more from exploiting a small number of super wealthy individuals with gambling addictions, and overall player satisfaction is not profitable in the long run because the majority of gamers nowadays move on to a new game fairly quickly.

    This model can work if end game content does not rely on certain variants. As things are now, It is not the case. You can’t get far in rift without Xeno. If Star-Spangled is Op and can only be obtained exclusively through a time-limited paid item, then its a sign that SGM has gone full P2W.
     
  5. Liam

    Liam !Robot
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    Exclusive Fighters from the Revolutionary Relic will be obtainable through other means in the future if you didn't have a chance to get them during the event.
     
  6. Jaz00

    Jaz00 Active Member

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    Thank you for clarifying. That’s great news!
     
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  7. BallotBoxer

    BallotBoxer Well-Known Member

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    lol, my prediction failed! The new are red, white, and blue, but the others are yellow... and pink... and black...
    rwb2.jpg

    With Jackpot Relic odds:
    Diamond = 1%
    Gold = 9%
    Silver = 90%
     
  8. Sairus

    Sairus AKA Cellsai
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    Did any of y'all pull any Revolution Relics? I got a Blue Bomber in mine... working on getting her to Gold asap!
     
  9. SheriffNick

    SheriffNick New Member

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    @Sairus

    I pulled a 4pk. I got 2 blue bombers and 2 of the pink doubles. No Beowulf or Valentine exclusives sadly.
     
  10. Gylfie

    Gylfie Active Member

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    Can someone share the SAs for the new fighters? Some people have been putting up pictures of Freedom Fighter's SA, but I still don't know Blue Bomber and Star Spangled's SAs.
     
  11. TonyPartridge30

    TonyPartridge30 Well-Known Member

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    I’m a little sad that there is only an offer related to the holiday instead of a special prize fight. Silver lining though is that the exclusive fighters will be grabbable through (hopefully) freeplay in the not-so-distant future.
     
  12. BallotBoxer

    BallotBoxer Well-Known Member

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    I haven't got any of them (yet!) and no one is posting to the SGM wiki either! :confused:

    In-game mail mentioned:
    So there is still a chance! I wonder what the "tons of amazing prizes" other than the relics are. (lol at the red rift tickets that came with the Father's Day mail gift)
     
  13. xcapibara

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    If by freeplay you mean random relics with pitiful odds then maybe. Since they introduced that method with the elemental prize fights it seems to have worked out for them; no direct character gains just relics.
     
  14. Jaz00

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    Her SAs are posted on SGM Twitter with videos of them demonstrating their abilities.
     
  15. Starsmore

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    I'll do the the prize fight but I'm not really interested in the new fighters or in this relic, just Freedom Fighter seems interesting.
     
  16. BallotBoxer

    BallotBoxer Well-Known Member

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    I don't usually go for premiums, but I felt Hidden Variable deserves it (plus it was half-paid by Google Surveys)
    I got 2x Doublicious Double (okay), a Number One Beowulf (the worst in the relic, IMO) and...

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    FREEDOM FIGHTER BEOWULF :D

    So there's one exact SA, more specific than what was shown on Twitter (the skill branch with all nodes bought). I'd rather have abilities that don't require being hurt first (see Rage Appropriate Painwheel), but 50% sounds fair. I can see his SA being great for attack and defense.
     
  17. BallotBoxer

    BallotBoxer Well-Known Member

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    Someone was just struck by lightning in the chat, allowing me to capture this:
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    I suppose the 15% chance and/or the 5 seconds duration will increase with skill tree unlocks, but how high will they go?
     
  18. SheriffNick

    SheriffNick New Member

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    congratz on the Freedom Fighter @BallotBoxer . I was unfortunately "blessed" with 1 Pyro Valentine, 6 Bombers, and 16 doubles after all my relics. No freedom fighter for this guy unless RNGsus blesses my PF relic.
     
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  19. Opaqueglass

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    Opened three to now.. All I got was doublicious:mad::mad::(:(
     
  20. FriendlyWolf

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    I got lucky on my pulls and got a freedom fighter (and a dreadlocks)! I now have every beowulf variant again!

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