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Pointlessly Overpowered Abilities Take the Fun Out of This Game

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Mayor_N, Aug 30, 2017.

  1. Ryouhi

    Ryouhi Well-Known Member

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    Good points.

    Still, there should be some way for players to discern how hard an enemy team is going to be compared to another, since stat bonuses make a huge difference
     
  2. Tetarti

    Tetarti New Member

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    I don't know if this is too much, but maybe have an info button next to a team so you could check their stats.
     
  3. bobtehnoob

    bobtehnoob Member

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    as i mentioned, an "effective fs" stat in brackets beside the base fs could help, but then weighting each stat buff properly becomes a chore and a pain to do accurately, a dropdown/info button clutters the enemy team selection screen, and waiting til during the fight to pause is often too late to realize that you're screwed
     
  4. Luke

    Luke Well-Known Member

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    Wouldn't the unknow suprise factor be kinda fun? I dont know what im up against, low lvl fully unlocked skill tree, or would this team have high lvl moves that decemate my team with two exp sponge?
    This just feels like getting a new gold move and wonder does it have the buff i need? The gamble.
     
  5. BrolaireOfAsstora

    BrolaireOfAsstora Active Member

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    Don't use your best teams. Use your crappier fighters and enjoy the challenge again. I'm sure it'd be interesting to deal with almost insultingly weak people again to you.
     
  6. BrolaireOfAsstora

    BrolaireOfAsstora Active Member

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    Minmaxing isn't an easily accessible thing to most people, which translates to most people not being able to reach your tier. I agree there needs to be more variety, just so people like you don't get bored, but at the same time it's not easy. Perhaps a mechanic to let you reroll stats on a move like in splatoon would help?
     
  7. bobtehnoob

    bobtehnoob Member

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    part of the issue is that not all level 50 golds with maxed skill trees have the same fs, resulting in having to fight harlequin all the time because she happens to be the fighter with the highest fs when maxed. even if i maxed my team of 2x resonant evil and 1x twisted mettle, it wouldnt appear to any of the highest level fighters because once you can see my team, you can also see all the other 31k+ teams up there because its always highest fs
    might be a balance thing, might be a "we need to redo the fs calculations" thing, but i dont think that all maxed gold 50s are supposed to have the same fs, nor is the game supposed to be balanced beyond "one fighter is blatantly way too powerful" because there are way too many variables at play
     
  8. Snow

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    A simple solution for this would be for us to be able to choose our defense teams.
    Otherwise, every team will end up with 3x Cerebella/Armed Forces simply because they have the highest FS available in the game atm :3 :3 :3

    I also have the opposing view to this thread. High damage = faster fights and turnarounds and makes games more exciting.

    Has anyone actually fought a 10k Armed Forces who keeps stacking 5 shields with 100% HP 50% defence? It's near impossible to beat without the right champion.

    High damage is what makes this game exciting. High defense and low damage is the opposite gameplay.

    No one enjoys fights that takes 3 minutes to beat where you constantly have to armour break. Bore.
     
  9. bobtehnoob

    bobtehnoob Member

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    it doesnt actually matter if we can choose our defense teams, because the matchmaker forces us to fight the strongest three teams available, so if one person's triple bella team goes away, another will replace it
     
  10. Barney

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    Letting us choose defence teams = Resonant Evils, Armed Forces and Untouchables everywhere. The current system isn't amazing but it would look like heaven compared to that.
     
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  11. bobtehnoob

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    i already have a team of 2x resonant evil and a 50% defense twisted mettle, and i have a level 50 armed forces i can max out defensive tree for, its not going to show up though because it doesnt have the fs
     
  12. Snow

    Snow Active Member

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    Armed forces can have 10.6k FS

    Unless you have 3 x 11.1k harlequins?
     
  13. bobtehnoob

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    its not showing up because of all the harlequin/armed forces teams out there
     
  14. Snow

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    You're highest 3 characters show up as you're defense team.

    If you have a 10.6k Armed forces it will show up :3 :3 :3

    Unless you have 3 x 11.1k harlequins which will then this will show up instead

    :3

    :3

    :3
     
  15. bobtehnoob

    bobtehnoob Member

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    thats not how it works, lol
     
  16. Snow

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    um yes it is.
     
  17. Shawesome

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    It's the team you last used with the highest fs. So if I used a bronze scrub, a Parasite Weave and Raw Nerv, that would be the team I have for my defense until the fs is higher. If I replaced the scrub with my Diva, my team for defense would change. And it would stay that way unless i used someone even stronger, so it wouldn't go back to having that scrub if I used her again.
     
  18. Snow

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    Are you sure about this?

    I am 99% sure I read somewhere this rule was changed and your defense team now comprises of your TOP 3 FS characters, regardless of last fight :3 :3 :3

    It also matches what I've seen in game. I only ever see the top 3 of each characters team as well.

    E.g. Moisterrific will always have 1 Armed Forces, 1 Cerebella and 1 Eliza because that is his top 3 characters.

    I've played over 300 fights and seeing him 300 times in the last few weeks is no coincidence they changed it to being the TOP 3 FS characters.

    Hopefully a mod can confirm so no more misinformation is spread.

    :3

    :3

    :3
     
  19. Snow

    Snow Active Member

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    Okay I understand it now.

    My bad :3

    I just thought it was strange the same 4-5 players I see in PF in the past 2-3 months have the exact same fighters every time :3
    Thankyou for taking the time to explain.
     
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  20. bobtehnoob

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    stop
     
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